and this time it's over raising the debt limit. sources are saying president obama will use campaign style tactics in his approach but even before the fight hits fever pitch, both sides are speaking past each other and they stake familiar ground between taxes and spending. >> we're talking about looking at the tax code, putting everything on the table from the standpoint of closing loopholes and we know we can do that. special subsidies for big oil, $38 billion right there. how much more revenue can we get as we go forward? >> the tax issue is finished, over, completed. that is behind us now. the question is what are we going to do about the real problem. we didn't have this problem because we weren't taxing enough. unfortunately because of the agreement that was reached, 99% of americans will not see their taxes go up. 5,000 small businesses will not see their taxes go up. president got trillion dollars less than what he wanted. >> jamie: molly henneberg joins us. molly, obviously it's going to be the next item on the agenda. the debt ceiling and spending. we hope, now that the president